New Zealand Parliamentary Debate

Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi Deletion Bill [4467]

Te Ururoa Flavell

: He inoi-

A request-

The ASSISTANT SPEAKER( Ann Hartley)

: Please be seated. I am dealing with this point of order. Are you saying that the interpretation-

Te Ururoa Flavell

: No, no, kei te pai. He inoi kia ki Waitangi, kaua ko te Waitangi. Ae.

An interpretation in English was given to the House. No, no it is fine. I make a request that it be pronounced Waitangi( with the second a sounded like the u in cup); and not Waitangi( with the second a sounded like the a in man). OK.

The ASSISTANT SPEAKER( Ann Hartley)

: I warn the member that that was not a point of order. He should not have interrupted the member's speech. Interruption Mr Henare, I am ruling on a point of order; I am speaking. I warn the member. I am dealing with the point of order. There will be silence during points of order-that includes you, Mr Hide.

Rodney Hide

: What have I done?

The ASSISTANT SPEAKER( Ann Hartley)

: I was ruling on a point of order. Members know very well there will be silence while I rule on points of order. That was not a point of order. The member should not have interrupted the member's speech.

Te Ururoa Flavell

: Point of order, Madam Speaker.

The ASSISTANT SPEAKER( Ann Hartley)

: Do you want to make another point of order? It had better be a different point of order, because that was not a point of order.

Te Ururoa Flavell

: I raise a point of order, Madam Speaker. A, kia ora ra. I roto i te pukapuka nei kei te ki mena ka mau a-hara nei te korero a tetahi, e taea ana te whakaputa i te aroaro i mua i te aroaro o te Whare Paremata. Koi nei taku e whai nei.

An interpretation in English was given to the House. Thank you kindly. It states in this book that if a member says something that offends another member, the offended member can bring up the matter before the House of Parliament. This is what I was following up.

The ASSISTANT SPEAKER( Ann Hartley)

: That was not a point of order. The member cannot correct another member's speech like that.

Tariana Turia

: I raise a point of order, Madam Speaker. I thought that the Standing Orders stated that if a member in the House offended another member by what he or she said, that was in fact a breach of the Standing Orders. I think Te Ururoa Flavell has rightfully raised a point of order about offensive mispronunciation.

The ASSISTANT SPEAKER( Ann Hartley)

: The member did not raise a point of order about taking offence.

Tariana Turia

: I raise a point of order, Madam Speaker-

The ASSISTANT SPEAKER( Ann Hartley)

: No, the member did not raise a point of order about taking offence.

Tariana Turia

: I raise a point of order, Madam Speaker. The fact is that he raised the issue of offensive mispronunciation, which often happens in this House. That is the reason why he raised the point of order.

The ASSISTANT SPEAKER( Ann Hartley)

: No, that is not a point of order. The member did not raise it as taking offence.

R DOUG WOOLERTON

: Madam Speaker-

Te Ururoa Flavell

: I raise a point of order, Madam Speaker-